The tips of these knives BENT the very first time I used them. I have been a Karatedepot.com customer for four years. I called customer service and was told, Yes, the tips of these knives will bend. You can send them back, but you probably won't get a refund. They essentially told me, These are cheap knives, so what do you expect?; I explained that it was the FIRST TIME I had used them, but Karatedepot did not seem to care. I am unimpressed, and will look elsewhere for purchases in the future.